cskiwild Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 First off, Thanks Vohn for your taking the V2V on! I think that the V2V needs a PR push. I believe many newer VMC members don't know anything about the V2V, or the reason it was started. This discussion will help get the word out. From the posting here I see that the enthusiasm is here for the PR push the V2V needs. The Events committee, as it has in the past, will support the V2V. I have the back pack and the baton. If you need anything please let me know. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gene hunt Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Well, I know many do not like to see changes but I cannot help but suggest we do ride pins instead of T-shirts, less cost, much easier logistics. And I do realize the value of advertsiing the ride along the way, perhaps a flag or two might suffice, I'd be glad to mount one on my KP, just a suggestion. Gene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevix Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Pins have been done in the past... the V2V 8 pin was VERY cool! I think I also have a T-Shirt from that one. ~Kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psimpson Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 OK, will do although if someone in the KC area wants leg 7 I'm cool with that. I would take any advice on meeting place/hotel for KC but will look in the prior years posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gene hunt Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 The good news is in Frederick we have an $85 rate in Frederick at the Red Horse Comfort Inn, right on the Old National Road(Victory Highway) with a nice steak house next door, as well as other food choices within walking distance. I have a room block of 10 rooms. Once the legs are setup in the forum I'll post info to make reservations. I've also gone back to hotel in Zanesville to let them know the rate the Baymont is offering, we'll see if that helps. Regards - Gene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowcountry8ball Posted January 29, 2016 Author Share Posted January 29, 2016 These dates are solid, but don't make the announcement ahead of the event staff. The event staff would like to make the official announcement, first........................thanks Tim R/Vohn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowcountry8ball Posted January 29, 2016 Author Share Posted January 29, 2016 WOULD THE STORE DO THE PINS AND/OR CHALLENGE COINS? r/VOH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevix Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 What about doing pins on a pre-order basis to be ordered on July 10? I know I would be OK it a slight delay to get one. ~Kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman808 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Starting date of Leg 1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 To far away to participate in V2V, with so much time to go. Y'all work it out b safe. And thankfully your able. I'm just hope n to get to SEVR this year. Only bout 5 hr ride, out work trying to scrape up the funds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevix Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I got to say I am disappointed we are ending this ride on 7/3 for two reasons. 1) Personal/selfish reason I had planned on doing two legs on Saturday/Sunday that are now Friday/Saturday. I cannot take half Thursday and all of Friday to make them but I would have been able to take a half day Friday. So now I will only get to ride one leg. 2) History of Victory motorcycles. I had always seen this ride as being a celebration of Victory's birthday with the ride ending on 7/4 the day that is considered the birthday of Victory motorcycles as the first production bike rolled off the assembly line on 7/4/1998 as a 1999 model. Victory corporate its self make a big deal of 7/4 being Victory's birthday. ~Kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtybubble Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 +1 on both accounts...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gene hunt Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Vohn, It was my understanding that that the leg captain for the last leg was okay with the change. If the route changes I suggested do not work for the leg captains and those that are participating, I'm okay with changing it back to the same number of legs 14. I think those discusssions ought to be among people who are participating - Leg Captains or riders. If we do revert back to 14 legs. I will onlly be able to take legs 12 and 13. If we have a Leg captain for leg 10 thay can decide where it ends. We wiil need a leg captain for leg 11 from Hebron/Zanesville to Uniontown. I would be leg captain for the next 2 legs, Leg 12 would still end in Frederick and Leg 13 would end in Stroudsburg. Hotel changes is likely to cause rate change in Frederick since that would now be a Saturday. Not sure about Uniontown on Friday, the Holiday Inn is my prefrred hotel at that location and where we have stayed before. The only comment I have about T-shirts is I cannot carry 50 t-shirts on my Kingpin, last year if I had not had help from Rob and John(both riding XCs) we would have had to fedex some of them to somewhere else on the route. The spot is cool BTW and no problem carrying that. As for Pins the vendor I have dealt with for years only needs 3 weeks, if we had a headcount/sign up sheet you could easily get them made up in time. 50 pins typcially could be done at $3.90 each, 100 pins less, Still looking forward to participating in this ride and doing what I can to make it a success. - Gene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gene hunt Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 My bad I thought it was you Arnold that posted you wouldn't mind if it ended on 7/3, I see now it was someone with a different screen name that at a glance looked like you and I got confused. It seems that any change is making things harder. I'm okay with it reverting back to 14 legs but I will only take the legs from Uniontown to Frederick and Fredrick to Stroudsburg both are very short rides and I can handle 2 days of that but I’m not sure I can handle 3, especially using another day of vacation since I would have to ride out on Thusday. Vohn looking at the membership map we have a lot of members near the route from Plainfield to Hebron/Zanesville but not a lot from there going east, but it is only 150-175 miles so maybe the guys from Ohio would be willing to take the leg. If I have to do it to save the ride I will just let me know. I’d like to resolve this by the weekend so I can get on with hotels and posting information. Thanks - Gene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steady_runner Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Gentlemen - I was on FB yesterday and someone from PA wanted a contact person for the V2V ride. I'm not sure if this forum is open to the public so I did not recommend him viewing TheVMC site..... yet. V Busby - would you be willing to be this person's contact? Let me know. Naturally I will keep any of your contact information confidential to that person. IF IT DOES NOT VIOLATE A VMC RULE..... and if you are a FB user, would you mind posting the route listing and dates on Victory Motorcycle Owners Group? I'm not sure it does or why it should but others may know. Oh, thanks for chairing this event. (BTW I lived in Sumter from 83 to 86. Great fishing on the Santee! Saw lots of snakes and gators. Ah, wish I rode a bike back then.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gene hunt Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I do not think we want this posted in the open, not sure we want this expanded beyond the VMC and I think there would be danger in doing that if it was posted there. This ride is open to VMC members, is this person from PA a VMC member?. I'm not well versed in FB but I believe that group is part of the VOG? - Gene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steady_runner Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 No, I don't think this person is a VMC member. My thought was that he would hopefully participate in a V2V leg and then decide it would be worthwhile to join. Maybe, maybe not. Others feedback is why I posted here before providing any response to that person. Great care needs to be taken on how to respond should we decide I thought I read on a V2V thread by spike160blue that other bikes are welcome but the baton must be carried on a Victory. Granted other bikes does not necessarily mean non-VMC members but.... Immediately after posting earlier I sent c2pin a PM requesting feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gene hunt Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Well I will certainly stand by and see what the answer is, but opening this up to the public means that we lose control of who is participating and that is not something we should do. It's one thing to have a friend participate in a regional event in the hope that he might get a Victory and join the club, but letting anyone/everyone participate in the V2V not a god idea in IMHO. - Gene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ichi Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 steady_runner - 2016-02-10 10:34 AM Gentlemen - I was on FB yesterday and someone from PA wanted a contact person for the V2V ride. I'm not sure if this forum is open to the public so I did not recommend him viewing TheVMC site..... yet. V Busby - would you be willing to be this person's contact? Let me know. Naturally I will keep any of your contact information confidential to that person. IF IT DOES NOT VIOLATE A VMC RULE..... and if you are a FB user, would you mind posting the route listing and dates on Victory Motorcycle Owners Group? I'm not sure it does or why it should but others may know. Oh, thanks for chairing this event. (BTW I lived in Sumter from 83 to 86. Great fishing on the Santee! Saw lots of snakes and gators. Ah, wish I rode a bike back then.) There have been posts on the VMOG about this event, nothing definitive as we await the final details. The posts about this have generally along the lines of 'Hey, this is something that the VMC does that is very fun' and 'hey, this exists', occassionaly in response to a question about any good cross country relays. In other words, its being discussed there to promote the VMC. gene hunt - 2016-02-10 10:51 AM I do not think we want this posted in the open, not sure we want this expanded beyond the VMC and I think there would be danger in doing that if it was posted there. This ride is open to VMC members, is this person from PA a VMC member?. I'm not well versed in FB but I believe that group is part of the VOG? - Gene The Victory Motorcycle Owners Group was started by members of the VMC, it has nothing to do with VOG. It is not an official VMC FB page, but we use it to promote the Club. The Victory Highway Relay has been discussed in the VMOG FB group (as well as other FB groups) in years past, nothing bad came of that. I may be mistaken, but I think I've ridden with non-members on a leg or two; I'm thinking it was close friends and family of members who joined us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtybubble Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Yep.....Let's keep this a closed event....... Nothing good can come from others knowing about this..... Sarcasm in case you missed it..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gene hunt Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Yes I think you right, just one more reason not to pay dues anymore to be a member, just show up at VMC events I want to attend, don't volunteer for any club duties, etc..., - back at you. - Gene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gene hunt Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 1. So you assume all the people that might show up are folks we would want in the club? Or people we know? 2. Is this person even riding a Victory? 3. I hate saying anything negative here on the forum, I'm all about having a friend join on the ride, especially if they are on a Victory or thinking seriously about buying one. But I'm not exactly sure how you would limit it unless you have very specific guidance. Otherwise who knows who will show up. 4. Are they guests of the VMC for the purpose of getting discounts on hotels and what about VMC funds used for the event along the way? 5. I hope someone from the EC or BOD responds to this, with whatever the official guidance is, dang if I could find it. Last 2 years it was not an issue on the legs I participated in, it was small and all were members. - Gene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peddler Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Wow! This finally went south. For the record ... I've ridden with non-VMC riders in the V2V. How the hell are you going to get folks to join us if they don't experience us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peddler Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I mean really!!! Is exclussion of the public really the position of the Events Committee?!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gene hunt Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Okay I'm done. I'm so confused we have LCs that do not share their activities in their own region let alone the rest of the club. Then the one event we have that I think it would be great for VMC members to participate in turns out to be something that the majority, or at least those that are posting here think should be open to the general public. P.S. Thanks for checking out the name of the guy who posted on https://www.facebook.com/TheVOG.net he is not a current member since 2013, guess he is still interested in this event. - Gene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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